EdotEnv (YC S26) – Quant Trading RL Envs to Teach LLMs Research

We are Rui and Michael and we’re building EdotEnv (https://edotenv.com): self-improving RL environments from Quant Trading workflows.With all the benchmaxxing around, evals saturate and become meaningless for model comparison. Useful benchmarks should increase in difficulty as models advance. Back in our Quant jobs, Michael and I saw that the market has exactly this property: markets became more efficient as people profited from trading inefficiencies, making new profitable strategies harder to find and old ones decay over time.This makes markets an ideal, continuously evolving benchmark for LLM training. The hard part is to turn professional quant workflows into reliable training envs, as this is a very niche expertise.In our environments, we give LLMs a quant trading workflow and evaluate their performance on out-of-sample data: build predictive features/ models, design a portfolio, backtest strategies, adapt continuously to market regimes. Each step is a task with different self-built tools. For example, a predictive feature building task gives the agent cleaned market data of time period [0,T] to research ideas, a backtesting tool to test created features at time t on [0, t], an execution tool to trade strategies with the new features on [t+1, T] and a final evaluation. Our reward isolates the agent's feature building skills and yet benefits from market properties.From running SOTA models in our environments, we see that i) they seem to struggle with iterating deeply on research ideas, preferring broad shallow searches; ii) higher reasoning does not seem to increase performance and iii) agents do not understand trading, e.g. when losing money they stop trading instead of trading smarter. Check out our blogs for more details! https://edotenv.com/?tab=blogQuant workflows are essentially applied ML research, long-horizon planning and continual learning. Through our envs, we teach these transferable research skills, rather than tas

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Sell quant trading simulation environments to AI labs that need benchmarks that don't plateau as models improve.

The pain

Current LLM benchmarks saturate quickly, models hit ceiling performance and benchmarks stop differentiating capability. AI labs need evaluation frameworks that scale in difficulty with model advancement. Quant trading workflows naturally have this property because markets become harder as traders extract inefficiencies.

The gap

No one has productized professional quant trading workflows into reliable, reproducible RL training environments. This requires deep domain expertise in both quantitative finance and RL environment design. The founders have this expertise from their quant backgrounds and have already built working environments.

Build angle

Start by selling access to 2-3 polished trading environments to frontier labs (Anthropic, OpenAI, DeepSeek, etc.) as evaluation tools. Charge per model evaluation run or monthly access. Expand the environment library based on what labs actually use. Eventually build a platform where labs can contribute their own domain-specific environments.

Strengths

  • Founders have rare, legitimate quant trading expertise, not theoretical, but from actual trading desks
  • Already built working prototypes and ran SOTA models through them, generating real insights about LLM weaknesses
  • Market dynamics naturally create self-improving benchmarks without manual redesign
  • Clear customer segment: frontier AI labs actively searching for better evaluation methods
  • Transferable skills (long-horizon planning, iterative research, continual learning) apply beyond trading

Risks

  • Demand signal unclear, labs may view this as niche when they have internal evaluation teams. Need to prove these environments reveal things their benchmarks don't.
  • Reproducibility and fairness challenges: market data changes, execution details matter enormously, hard to isolate what the model actually learned vs. luck
  • Regulatory/compliance friction: using real market data and simulating trading strategies may trigger questions from legal/compliance teams at customer labs
  • Narrow TAM initially: only frontier labs with resources to evaluate models this way. Expansion to smaller labs requires significant simplification.
  • Competitive risk: once proven valuable, labs will build internal versions. Defensibility depends on continuous environment innovation and data access.

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